Battlestar Galactica: “No Exit”
14 February 2009
by Kari Geltemeyer
“I think we have to accept who we are.”
—Admiral William Adama
“You are not a mistake. If you could just accept yourself as what you are.”
—Ellen Tigh
“I need to be something.”
—Kara Thrace
“Saul, stay with the fleet. It’s all starting to happen, it’s the miracle, right here, it’s a gift from the angels. Stay with the fleet!”
—Samuel T. Anders
I’ve watched this episode three times now: once as it aired, while I practically fermented in a stew of hatred; once with Ronald D. Moore as my personal guide, where for the first time I hated him, too; and once at a rate of approximately one scene per hour, during which I typed out nearly every line of dialogue spoken by Anders, Cavil, and Ellen, and it was that third time that I actually fell in love. And in addition to finding that I no longer absorb information as quickly as I once did, here’s what I think I learned. Forgive the mess of my own brain dump, and feel free to correct any of it in the comments. And may the force be with you all.
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1.
Once upon a time, there was Cavil. John, you see? That most pedestrian of names, but portentous, as well, a name with heft, Biblically speaking, chosen for him by his mother (whom he later fucked), who named him after her own father (and whom, by the same transitive property, she also sort of fucked). PAUSE HERE FOR COLLECTIVE SKIN CRAWL, and then remember these are still mostly robots. Anyway, this sadist, as Ellen calls him now—the same John Cavil we first met as a priest, who helped create his own brothers and sisters, only to kill one of them and box another with nary a second thought when they stepped out of line—has managed over the years to recode himself into the One True Evil. Whose heart’s desire is not to be made more human, which was the original intent of the Final Five, but ALL MACHINE. And therefore heartless. Who tells his maker, in essence, I was great and you made me small. Whose sole driver is obsessive jealousy and hatred, and whose only notion of justice comes in violent retribution—indeed, the classic attributes of small men. But is this Ellen’s fault, for being the ringleader? The Final Five’s, for making “free will” the ultimate goal? Humanity’s, for creating the Cylons in the first place? All of the above? You tell me.
Still, it’s nice to have an actual enemy again, isn’t it? One we don’t have to bother empathizing with? Because while I get his whole whiny point, the guy’s still an irredeemable asshole who, from what I can tell, killed and zapped the brains of his own creators and then orchestrated the annihilation of the human race, and all as payback for being named “John.” Yes, I’m oversimplifying here, but still: nuclear temper tantrum! But like Laura last week, a lot of Cavil’s dialogue felt way over the top to me in this one. I mean, I can accept the grandiose speechifying and monumental declarations—his anguished cry of “I don’t want to be human!” was heartbreaking—but “I want to see gamma rays”? “I want to smell dark matter”? Two lines of dialogue no one could deliver credibly, and the line I officially cannot cross without giggling like a schoolgirl.
And here’s another thought: if he had no feelings programmed into him in the first place, would he be able to see, or hear, or experience any of these things anyway? If he’d been numbed in the same way that he lobotomized the Raiders, would a star going nova mean anything at all? Isn’t his reasoning inherently faulty, in a circular logic kind of way? Again, you’ll have to tell me; I just gave myself a headache.
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2.
Once upon a time, there was—holy good gods almighty—Ellen Tigh. Previously Our Lady of the Perpetual Hangover, now our proverbial Earth Mother, come back in ways all unexpected and almost unrecognizable, deeply warm and intelligent, thoughtful and forgiving, and yet. Hand the girl a drink, jack; she was made part human herself, after all. Right? (While the Final Five created the eight skinjobs to be “as human as possible,” didn’t they already possess those attributes themselves? I’m really asking here.) What a marvelous trick to pull with this character, to bring her back so completely opposite of what she was when we first met her, the drunk flirty party girl nobody could trust, not even Saul. But he loved something in her even then, something he recognized—beyond the shared love of booze—which adds another layer of poignancy to their “parting” on New Caprica. Both of them moving blindly through false memories yet bound inextricably together (although I guess it was Cavil who rewired them that way when he sent them out amongst the English). And she really does fit in here as the greater link that’s been missing in this story so far, an obvious Other Half to the Cylon equation—she is the heart to Cavil’s fist—and the sort of naturally formidable foe that got sucked into a vacuum when he boxed D’Anna.
She’s also clearly a leader in a sense that none of the other Cylons are (apart from Cavil), and the only one who could convince Boomer that there was another way. And how amazing was that scene, where Boomer asks her “Who would I want to love?” and then the camera cuts right to Tyrol? What a sweet callback to something so long forgotten, after so much time and so much loss. Ronald D. Moore! Please make it happen. Not everybody needs to be miserable on your Great Big Important Show that we love so very much.
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Once upon a time, there was Samuel T. Anders, who was big and strong and very manly, who played ball for a living and became a star, who was handsome and naïve and maybe even a little of a lunkhead. Which is to say he lived like a jock, going by instinct and not so much by brain (sorry, jocks; I know it’s a stereotype). But when the world ended those instincts served him well, and he took to the woods to form a resistance, because he was a natural leader back then, too. Just as he was on New Caprica, the man you put in front because everyone else will fall instinctively in line behind him. A hero, who rose again and again, who learned that he was a Cylon but never really changed sides. The sort of man who stands tall and stays true, and who loved Kara Thrace most of all, even after everything. Also, not really a man of words, so when the words came they took even him by surprise, and the stories that he told…. Well. He cracked that lid wide open and spilled all that he could, and in the end that cost him, too. This Longshot. A fighter.
Oh, Sam. Please come back.
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Once upon a time, there was a Quorum, eleven democratically elected representatives (plus Lee!) from the Twelve Colonies who sat around a table under the heel of the president and bickered all day long. Eleven morons, really; even Laura Roslin admits she kind of hated them, although it wasn’t her fault they were written that way, and she certainly didn’t pull the trigger. Eleven mortal souls who also did what they could, given what they had, everybody doing their best to sustain a system that never really existed. Because there was never actually a way for them to govern, was there? And no authority to govern with? There was Admiral Adama and Madame President, and eleven little mice nibbling around at their toes. And now not even that.
Thus Lee Adama finally gets to make some damn sense when he tells Laura the only way to move forward is to accept what’s true: the Twelve Colonies no longer exist. What they have left is what they have to work with, which is a fleet made up of ships whose citizens represent nothing more than those ships. No more Caprica, or Picon, or Aerolon (which sounds like a great deodorant). And what can Laura do now but say yes, go form your little team and do everything your way? Telling him he’s smart but still managing to point out his inherent dumbness, which is why I adore Laura and have always hated Lee. But he’s growing on me, the scrappy little bastard. And she really is going off to die, huh? Son of a bitch.
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And finally: Once upon a time, there was a ship called Galactica, and my, she was yar. Or was she? Not as much as we thought, apparently, as she was fading before we even stepped aboard. Fifty years old! That’s like a million in ship years. But like most of everything else, she was all we had, and she did her best, through all these long journeys and terrible battles, when she held us safely in her hands, when she was all that stood between Us and Them, when she stayed behind, when she jumped ahead. Waiting patiently, like the rest of us, to go home.
Oops: EARNESTNESS ALERT, coming a little too late to save you.
Anyway, this ship that started out all human will now live as something else: another guess, another compromise, another hybrid. “We have to accept who we are,” Adama tells Tyrol, because sometimes things don’t go the way we planned them, and sometimes we make it up as we go along. And sometimes we take a drink, pop some pills, and roll that hard six on the chances of our own frakkin’ survival.
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MISCELLANEOUS
Here are some scattered notes I took while watching, most of which are actual lines of dialogue, but also some fairly basic plot points that I needed to set down for myself, to clarify things that might be remedial learning for closer viewers. Obviously there’s a lot I haven’t paid enough attention to over the years. Take it for what you will.
WHAT WE LEARN FROM ELLEN & CAVIL
Centurion values included a belief in a living god.
“The Temple of Hopes” —from the algae planet, in “The Passage” and “The Eye of Jupiter”—was built by the 13th Tribe three thousand years ago when they left Kobol. Ellen says they stopped and prayed for guidance during their exodus, and then God showed them the way to earth. Cavil calls it “a monument to your vanity, the Temple of the Five.” He accuses Ellen of somehow leaving behind the exploding star as a revelation to D’Anna: “a carnival trick, to reveal your own faces.” Ellen says no: “We didn’t plant anything there; we backtracked the path of our ancestors, found their temple. The One True God must’ve orchestrated these events.”
Ellen: “The five of us designed you to be as human as possible.”
Cavil’s disgust at being limited by his humanoid body: “My five creators thought that God wanted it that way.”
Ellen tells Boomer that what the eight humanoid models gained made it worthwhile. “He’s wrong, Boomer. There’s no need for remorse, or blame. We didn’t limit you. We gave you something wonderful: free will. The ability to think creatively, to reach out to others with compassion, to love.”
The eight humanoid models can’t procreate biologically, so Cavil tells Ellen they need to rebuild resurrection. (Hera – human / humanoid; Baby X – Final Five / humanoid) Cavil says, “They destroyed the Hub, but they don’t even know about the Colony. All your equipment is still there.” (Colony?? Let’s go there!) But Ellen tells him she needs all of the Final Five to do it, and even then it might not work. Cavil assumes she’s lying and threatens to pull it out of her brain himself (“The recipe for life everlasting.”).
On the memory wipes of the Final Five:
Ellen: “Why send us to live among the humans?”
Cavil: “I wanted you to see what they’re like up close and personal, so I gave you all grandstand seats to a holocaust.”
Ellen: “But we didn’t die. And then you decided that we hadn’t suffered enough. So you picked me up, put me on a transport, took Galen’s confession, played resistance fighter with Sam, tortured Saul, but didn’t kill him. You had a dozen chances, but you wanted to wait so that when it finally happened, when we’d download back, we’d be ready to admit we were wrong, and pat you on the head for giving us the right amount of suffering, the right amount of punishment, all weighed out. Then we could give you the approval that you’ve always craved. See, you claim to be a perfect machine but you’re driven by the most petty of human emotions. Jealousy, and rage. I know what you did to Daniel.”
Daniel (Number Seven) was destroyed permanently by Cavil; he contaminated the amniotic fluid and corrupted all the genetic copies. Ellen: “Daniel was an artist, so sensitive to the world.” And thus her favorite.
Ellen to Cavil: “I love you, because I made you.”
WHAT WE LEARN FROM SAM
The Final Five reinvented resurrection; “organic memory transfer” came from Kobol along with the 13th Tribe. It fell out of use after Cylons started to procreate naturally on Earth, and the Final Five worked together to rebuild it. Ellen was the one who made “the final intuitive leap” that allowed them to resurrect.
The Final Five knew that Earth would be nuked, and downloaded their memories onto an orbiting ship when it happened. They set out for the Twelve Colonies but hadn’t yet developed jump drive technology, so they traveled at “relativistic but subluminal speed”; i.e., time slowed down for them, while thousands of years passed on the Twelve Colonies. Their intent was to warn the other tribes (humans?): “We knew they would continue to create artificial life, and we needed to tell them, treat them well, keep them close, but by the time we got to the colonies, they were already at war with the Centurions. It was too late.” = First Cylon War
The Centurions were trying to make flesh bodies and had already created the Hybrids, but nothing that had survived on its own. The Final Five made a deal with them: stop the war, and we’ll help you. So the First Cylon War ended, and the eight skinjobs (humanoid models) were born. = the Final Five gave them resurrection.
Tory: “The humans on Kobol made us.”
Tigh: “We share the blame with the humans.” Frakkin’ humans.
Cavil was the first humanoid model; he helped the Final Five build the other seven. He then “rejected mercy” and turned on the Final Five; first he trapped and suffocated them, then wiped their memories when they downloaded into new bodies. He implanted them with false memories and sent them to live with the humans, believing they were human, starting with Tigh, right after the war. (QUESTION: Didn’t Tigh fight in the First Cylon War, with Adama?)
Tags: battlestar galactica, bsg, scifi channel
posted by Kari Geltemeyer in → Reviews
February 15th, 2009 at 1:11 am
Wow. Kari, that's a great writeup, all the more because you hated this episode last night and didn't think you could even find a way into it. I'm glad you did.
Some of my thoughts, not particularly well structured.
You talk about the amazing switch in Ellen, whose implanted personality was catty and unreliable and shallow in contrast to who she truly was. Why? Well, John/Cavil wanted not just to give the Five "grandstand seats to a holocaust," but to diminish them and humiliate them. Let's be real. This petty, vindictive boy didn't just want them to wake up and admit he was right, he wanted to punish them. So…
- Anders, the lunkhead jock, was once a musician but *also* one of these five scientists.
- Tori, the once-loyal now selfish girl, was once in love with Galen…
- Who himself has been changed. Galen, the blue collar, dirt-under-his-fingernails man. What was he? We have a hint from the Temple of the Five, don't we? Deeply spiritual perhaps? Maybe the very antithesis of a man of the people.
- Tigh, finally Tigh. The King Laius in this little Oedipal struggle who instead lost his eye when his son was finally offended enough by it. Who was Saul Tigh before his memories and personality were buried by his monstrous creation?
We've seen how resurrection works a bit – there needs to be a body in place for the "organic memory transfer" to take place. How long did Cavil have that empty shell of an Ellen lying in a vat in a hidden chamber of his basestar? Are there more? Are there chambers with Tighs and Sams and Galens and Tories? Are there more copies of their bodies still sitting out there in hidden chambers? Did Cavil keep them one to a ship, or did each ship have five rooms to which only he had the key? What might be on that basestar with the fleet?
I love Hodgman, I surely do, but damn he was irritating. I have no idea why they cut out Kara yelling at him to shut the frak up. I wanted him to.
I don't know if Ellen will be able to repair Sam when she joins the fleet. Despite his "word salad," Sam was pretty clear about one aspect of Cylon neural biology: "the vascular ring, that's what binds the thoughts in tight sheaves in the field – you need that." If it's been damaged, for all we know all his thoughts and memories have been lost forever. Regardless, if there is any hope, it lies with Ellen.
February 15th, 2009 at 1:31 am
See? All that hard watching, and I still see them as they are, not as they were — I told you scifi is not my bag, man, so I'm way off my footing here! That damn Ron Moore — if I ever meet him, I'm gonna punch him right in the face.
(insert girly grin)
But I would like to believe there's an end to all this that doesn't involve a whole raft of additional duplicates popping up out of boxes — I do think that would be a cheat, but who knows? Ditto Ellen "fixing" Sam — I like to think she's not a magician, and that the hardest thing they have to come to terms with now is what they were seeking all along — to be human, which is to be mortal. Would sort of serve them right, wouldn't it? Be careful what you wish for and all that crap.
And I agree about Hodgman — the character was out of place, and completely took you out of the scene. There's a time for levity in this show, but that wasn't it. The whole thing was a little tone deaf.
February 15th, 2009 at 1:31 am
See? All that hard watching, and I still see them as they are, not as they were — I told you scifi is not my bag, man, so I'm way off my footing here! That damn Ron Moore — if I ever meet him, I'm gonna punch him right in the face.
(insert harmless girly grin)
But I would like to believe there's an end to all this that doesn't involve a whole raft of additional duplicates popping up out of boxes — I do think that would be a cheat, but who knows? Ditto Ellen "fixing" Sam — I like to think she's not a magician, and that the hardest thing they have to come to terms with now is what they were seeking all along — to be human, which is to be mortal. Would sort of serve them right, wouldn't it? Be careful what you wish for and all that crap.
And I agree about Hodgman — the character was out of place, and completely took you out of the scene. There's a time for levity in this show, but that wasn't it. The whole thing was a little tone deaf.
February 14th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
I thought this was a great and subtle point. He wants to be able to experience the most sublime aspects of humanity, but only in a robot’s body. He wants all the good of being human and none of the bad—or all of the good of being a robot and none of the bad. Ellen, on the other hand, has the wisdom to know that either way is impossible.
February 15th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Wow, I'm surprised you hated it at first, I thought it was brilliant from the get-go. I was totally blown away by Ellen showing up like that…I've been trying to avoid spoilers of any kind, so the opening was weird and I was like WTF is going on? Then she wakes from the resurrection and I was shocked.
I guess up until now, everyone questions whether they had that ability or not.
Anyways…a lot of this is confusing, all the revelations, how it works on the timeline, etc.
I think my big question at this point…are the 12 colonies human or Cylon?
February 15th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
The heavily Cylon-centric stories are by far my least favorite, and I think this is the first one I've even watched the whole way through. It's just not what I watch the show for, which explains a lot of my confusion when we get into this whole epic backstory.
That said, I'm interested in the way it's all playing out, and the way this stuff is finally being explained, but you're right; there are still a lot of big questions out there.
Also, there's a timeline here on Mo Ryan's blog (search for "Adam Whitehead" — it's in the comments).
February 16th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
LOL… "And may the force be with you all…"
The write-up to end all write-ups!!!! Great job Kari…. even Ron Moore would like it (except getting punched in the face part)!
My guess is Daniel was Starbucks father, and she is a hybrid (so it sorta explains her artistry side…) guess we'll have to see how that all plays out…
February 16th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
I liked Ellen eating the apple..earth mother/creator goddess indeed.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Yeah, I'm liking that Daniel thread more & more. At first I assumed we were going to see the guy (thus one of my angry tweets to R.A. right after the show), but I like him being the legacy of Kara Thrace.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Ditto — and the mother as a serious force to be reckoned with.
February 18th, 2009 at 12:31 am
What I like about the scifi genre is that it borrows liberally from others. Some mysticism, some existentialism and lots of various philosophies.
All literary analogies aside, I enjoy BSG from a scientific/philosophical perspective. What hasn't been mentioned is the fact that extremists on both sides have been neatly(or bloodily) eliminated. Cyclons 1,4 and 5 eliminated in their civil war. The Felix/Zarek revolters are gone. There are some left not that aren't happy about their new allies, but over all most of the radicals are gone. The writers seem to be driving toward a karmic middle ground, in that only those that learn to adapt will live to see their species evolve(make it to nirvana). It is a simple and neat little bow, but I don't mind. It is realistic in an evolutionary sense because only species that learn to adapt will survive. Adaptation of the ailing Galactica. Adaptation of a machine to cope with a human mind and free will.
What is truly elegant is thinking about the three unique species(cyclon, skinjob and human) all at the top of the food chain and living together at the same point in time. Think about evolution of man and the possibility of 3 different homo species living side by side. Maybe better to say 2 homo species and 1 species from a different family. Metal and silicon makeup would put the cylons in a different family(anal science definition).
That is, if skin jobs aren't human. All clues aside, not sure yet.
February 18th, 2009 at 1:05 am
Forgot to mention the nice symmetry between John Cavil and Felix. Human dreams maddened Cavil, the mechanical limb maddened Felix. Both vented their frustration in a spectacular fashion.
February 18th, 2009 at 1:19 am
Ah, my old friend, Mr. Zamzow! Glad to hear you're a BSG fan — and thank you for contributing your obviously well considered thoughts. You certainly elevate the conversation beyond my usual "oh my god I love it so much!" Because, of course, I approach nothing from a scientific/philosophical perspective
I do wonder, though, whether the writers will let us have that karmic middle ground in the end — I see where you're driving to, but my sense is that the scale is going to tip back in a most unsatisfactory way for the humans and Cylons who choose peace. Will Cavil win? I don't know; but I see everybody losing, in some way. And I am most curious to find out whether the humans and Cylons all originated within the same tribe, as has been suggested elsewhere, too — all part human, all part machine?
And your Cavil/Gaeta parallel is an excellent point: both of them taking matters into their own hands, after all, and convinced enough of their own rightness to go against the wishes of most of their own kind.
February 18th, 2009 at 1:24 am
Gotta disagree with one sentiment there. I don't believe either Cavil or Gaeta is going/went against the wishes of most of their kind. I think in this war, at this point, the extremists are the majority and the calm, rational voices in the middle are going to learn that those on the extremes would rather destroy all life than let the "other" survive.
February 18th, 2009 at 1:29 am
What a downer, man! I'm afraid you may be right.
And if not, you will owe me another bellini.
February 18th, 2009 at 2:27 am
I still have the feeling that the final episodes are mostly denouement.
They may, however, leave us wondering if the survivors will find a planet or remain galactic roma.
February 18th, 2009 at 2:32 am
Galactica has acquiesced to the cylon upgrades. As Galactica goes, so goes the fleet. The fire of vengeance has been quelled…for the time being.
February 18th, 2009 at 2:41 am
No way, man; this show is going out in a blaze of glory, and everybody will either be A) dead or B) catatonic for loss. I see no happy endings for anybody — no real answers for Kara; Lee probably running the government, but alone; Adama paralyzed by losing Roslin, and all of them wondering what they hell they've done and where they've ended up, even if they do finally find a place to land. Ditto the Final Five: somebody's got to pay for their hubris, and I think it'll be brutal.
February 18th, 2009 at 2:42 am
What a downer! But I'm afraid you may be right.
And if not, you will owe me another bellini.
February 18th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Great recap – thanks for putting so much thought and effort into it. I really like the comments about that Cavil-Gaeta parallels. I also really dig the idea of Kara being a hybrid, and of a Tyrol-Boomer reunion. About the endgame, I am seriously hoping for some ray of hope by the end of the series – for the cylons, the final 5, and the humans to come to some sort of shared epiphany about how to deal with their shared, interconnected fate. I agree that, in many ways, this show is about survival and adaptation to new dialectic iterations – I think this is even more true now that we have a better idea of the big picture timeline.
Another big theme of this show – self awareness – was also seriously reinforced by the recent revelations. For example, we have the emerging "fleet" self-awareness (which we see via Lee and Roslin), that they are not what they once were, that they have become something new, and in order to survive they must deal with who they are, not who they were. There have been individual struggles for epiphanies of self-awareness (roslin coming to terms with her role in the doomed quest for a new home, coming to terms with her mortality and realizing what's really important for her last days, gaeta trying to come to terms with his own complicity in evil acts, kara searching for who she really is, Lee's ongoing quest to find a place where he fits and become a man, etc). There is the emerging self-awareness of the final 5, who now must discover and deal with who they are, not who they thought they were. There is the emerging self-awareness among the other cylons too – in various ways (as their unity has broken down and they are dealing with rebellion in their own ranks, having to see themselves as beings with free will, rather than as a borg-esque entity with a unified front, and also coming to terms with their newfound mortality). So, the ray of light would come, if it ever does, with a broader self-awareness of "beings" – as each contingent recognizes that they have common histories, needs, and goals, allowing for a meaningful long-term co-mingeldy existence. I could see it just as easily going the other way, though, as RA Porter pointed out above, with all sides unable to adapt and therefore all becoming extinct.
I was particularly impressed with Ellen – I had never really been a fan of the character before all this. So now that light has been shed on her true nature, so many things about her (personality, demons, etc) makes more sense in hindsight. I thought that the actress was pretty awesome in every single scene – infusing every line with a confident dignity and self-possession that I don't remember seeing in Old School Ellen.
February 18th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Shara, you've just clarified a whole other layer of this journey for me, re: self-awareness, putting into words that thread I've been searching for (missing the forest for the trees). I would hope their self-enlightenment brings some peace, but I'm still anticipating a lot of hits from the dark side here. About the only people I see escaping some sort of huge emotional breakdown are Helo and Sharon, just because they're the two who managed to transcend all those differences and make peace with each other (and themselves) long ago, and have managed to keep the faith all this time. They seem at least like the symbol of the one true hope.
And I totally agree about Ellen — I was always bored by her character, until New Caprica, at least. I went back and watched the 4 New Caprica episodes over the weekend and was amazed by how well her arc back then fits in with this new development, and have a new respect for Kate Vernon. I'm also eager to see her reunion with Tigh, especially given Caprica Six's pregnancy… Would love to hear your thoughts on that.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
I'll tell you my thoughts on the reunion with Tigh in two words: Big Love.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
That's gonna be one strange homecoming. I can't imagine that she would be *upset* at the new development in Tigh's life, considering that she wasn't particularly *upset* at Cavil basically destroying existence for everybody – she seems capable of loving folks, no matter what. I can also see her feeling very positively about the cylon + final five procreation, which symbolizes a new beginning, a new direction, a new hope. I have a feeling that she will be all Zen about everything, and Tigh is the one who is going to flip his lid over what to do. I have a really hard time imagining him remaining couple-y with Six after Ellen comes back, because she is the love of his many lives (and his whole initial bond with her was all creepy-hallucinating-Ellen-vibey anyway). But I think they will all be excited about the baby. Big Love, indeed. Whatever it is, its gonna be awesome, cause that's how this show rolls. . .
February 20th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Very funny R.A.