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	<title>Comments on: Battlestar Galactica: &#8220;No Exit&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very funny R.A.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very funny R.A.</p>
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		<title>By: shara says</title>
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		<dc:creator>shara says</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s gonna be one strange homecoming.  I can&#039;t imagine that she would be *upset* at the new development in Tigh&#039;s life, considering that she wasn&#039;t particularly *upset* at Cavil basically destroying existence for everybody - she seems capable of loving folks, no matter what.   I can also see her feeling very positively about the cylon + final five procreation, which symbolizes a new beginning, a new direction, a new hope.  I have a feeling that she will be all Zen about everything, and Tigh is the one who is going to flip his lid over what to do.  I have a really hard time imagining him remaining couple-y with Six after Ellen comes back, because she is the love of his many lives (and his whole initial bond with her was all creepy-hallucinating-Ellen-vibey anyway).  But I think they will all be excited about the baby.  Big Love, indeed.  Whatever it is, its gonna be awesome, cause that&#039;s how this show rolls. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s gonna be one strange homecoming.  I can&#039;t imagine that she would be *upset* at the new development in Tigh&#039;s life, considering that she wasn&#039;t particularly *upset* at Cavil basically destroying existence for everybody &#8211; she seems capable of loving folks, no matter what.   I can also see her feeling very positively about the cylon + final five procreation, which symbolizes a new beginning, a new direction, a new hope.  I have a feeling that she will be all Zen about everything, and Tigh is the one who is going to flip his lid over what to do.  I have a really hard time imagining him remaining couple-y with Six after Ellen comes back, because she is the love of his many lives (and his whole initial bond with her was all creepy-hallucinating-Ellen-vibey anyway).  But I think they will all be excited about the baby.  Big Love, indeed.  Whatever it is, its gonna be awesome, cause that&#039;s how this show rolls. . .</p>
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		<title>By: R.A. Porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>R.A. Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll tell you my thoughts on the reunion with Tigh in two words: &lt;i&gt;Big Love&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ll tell you my thoughts on the reunion with Tigh in two words: <i>Big Love</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: kgeltemeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>kgeltemeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shara, you&#039;ve just clarified a whole other layer of this journey for me, re: self-awareness, putting into words that thread I&#039;ve been searching for (missing the forest for the trees). I would hope their self-enlightenment brings some peace, but I&#039;m still anticipating a lot of hits from the dark side here. About the only people I see escaping some sort of huge emotional breakdown are Helo and Sharon, just because they&#039;re the two who managed to transcend all those differences and make peace with each other (and themselves) long ago, and have managed to keep the faith all this time. They seem at least like the symbol of the one true hope.

And I totally agree about Ellen -- I was always bored by her character, until New Caprica, at least. I went back and watched the 4 New Caprica episodes over the weekend and was amazed by how well her arc back then fits in with this new development, and have a new respect for Kate Vernon. I&#039;m also eager to see her reunion with Tigh, especially given Caprica Six&#039;s pregnancy... Would love to hear your thoughts on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shara, you&#039;ve just clarified a whole other layer of this journey for me, re: self-awareness, putting into words that thread I&#039;ve been searching for (missing the forest for the trees). I would hope their self-enlightenment brings some peace, but I&#039;m still anticipating a lot of hits from the dark side here. About the only people I see escaping some sort of huge emotional breakdown are Helo and Sharon, just because they&#039;re the two who managed to transcend all those differences and make peace with each other (and themselves) long ago, and have managed to keep the faith all this time. They seem at least like the symbol of the one true hope.</p>
<p>And I totally agree about Ellen &#8212; I was always bored by her character, until New Caprica, at least. I went back and watched the 4 New Caprica episodes over the weekend and was amazed by how well her arc back then fits in with this new development, and have a new respect for Kate Vernon. I&#039;m also eager to see her reunion with Tigh, especially given Caprica Six&#039;s pregnancy&#8230; Would love to hear your thoughts on that.</p>
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		<title>By: shara says</title>
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		<dc:creator>shara says</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great recap - thanks for putting so much thought and effort into it.  I really like the comments about that Cavil-Gaeta parallels.  I also really dig the idea of Kara being a hybrid, and of a Tyrol-Boomer reunion.  About the endgame, I am seriously hoping for some ray of hope by the end of the series - for the cylons, the final 5, and the humans to come to some sort of shared epiphany about how to deal with their shared, interconnected fate.  I agree that, in many ways, this show is about survival and adaptation to new dialectic iterations - I think this is even more true now that we have a better idea of the big picture timeline.

Another big theme of this show - self awareness - was also seriously reinforced by the recent revelations.  For example, we have the emerging &quot;fleet&quot; self-awareness (which we see via Lee and Roslin), that they are not what they once were, that they have become something new, and in order to survive they must deal with who they are, not who they were.  There have been individual struggles for epiphanies of self-awareness (roslin coming to terms with her role in the doomed quest for a new home, coming to terms with her mortality and realizing what&#039;s really important for her last days, gaeta trying to come to terms with his own complicity in evil acts, kara searching for who she really is, Lee&#039;s ongoing quest to find a place where he fits and become a man, etc). There is the emerging self-awareness of the final 5, who now must discover and deal with who they are, not who they thought they were.  There is the emerging self-awareness among the other cylons too - in various ways (as their unity has broken down and they are dealing with rebellion in their own ranks, having to see themselves as beings with free will, rather than as a borg-esque entity with a unified front, and also coming to terms with their newfound mortality).  So, the ray of light would come, if it ever does, with a broader self-awareness of &quot;beings&quot; - as each contingent recognizes that they have common histories, needs, and goals, allowing for a meaningful long-term co-mingeldy existence.  I could see it just as easily going the other way, though, as RA Porter pointed out above, with all sides unable to adapt and therefore all becoming extinct.

I was particularly impressed with Ellen - I had never really been a fan of the character before all this.  So now that light has been shed on her true nature, so many things about her (personality, demons, etc) makes more sense in hindsight.  I thought that the actress was pretty awesome in every single scene - infusing every line with a confident dignity and self-possession that I don&#039;t remember seeing in Old School Ellen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great recap &#8211; thanks for putting so much thought and effort into it.  I really like the comments about that Cavil-Gaeta parallels.  I also really dig the idea of Kara being a hybrid, and of a Tyrol-Boomer reunion.  About the endgame, I am seriously hoping for some ray of hope by the end of the series &#8211; for the cylons, the final 5, and the humans to come to some sort of shared epiphany about how to deal with their shared, interconnected fate.  I agree that, in many ways, this show is about survival and adaptation to new dialectic iterations &#8211; I think this is even more true now that we have a better idea of the big picture timeline.</p>
<p>Another big theme of this show &#8211; self awareness &#8211; was also seriously reinforced by the recent revelations.  For example, we have the emerging &quot;fleet&quot; self-awareness (which we see via Lee and Roslin), that they are not what they once were, that they have become something new, and in order to survive they must deal with who they are, not who they were.  There have been individual struggles for epiphanies of self-awareness (roslin coming to terms with her role in the doomed quest for a new home, coming to terms with her mortality and realizing what&#039;s really important for her last days, gaeta trying to come to terms with his own complicity in evil acts, kara searching for who she really is, Lee&#039;s ongoing quest to find a place where he fits and become a man, etc). There is the emerging self-awareness of the final 5, who now must discover and deal with who they are, not who they thought they were.  There is the emerging self-awareness among the other cylons too &#8211; in various ways (as their unity has broken down and they are dealing with rebellion in their own ranks, having to see themselves as beings with free will, rather than as a borg-esque entity with a unified front, and also coming to terms with their newfound mortality).  So, the ray of light would come, if it ever does, with a broader self-awareness of &quot;beings&quot; &#8211; as each contingent recognizes that they have common histories, needs, and goals, allowing for a meaningful long-term co-mingeldy existence.  I could see it just as easily going the other way, though, as RA Porter pointed out above, with all sides unable to adapt and therefore all becoming extinct.</p>
<p>I was particularly impressed with Ellen &#8211; I had never really been a fan of the character before all this.  So now that light has been shed on her true nature, so many things about her (personality, demons, etc) makes more sense in hindsight.  I thought that the actress was pretty awesome in every single scene &#8211; infusing every line with a confident dignity and self-possession that I don&#039;t remember seeing in Old School Ellen.</p>
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		<title>By: kgeltemeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>kgeltemeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a downer! But I&#039;m afraid you may be right.

And if not, you will owe me another bellini.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a downer! But I&#039;m afraid you may be right.</p>
<p>And if not, you will owe me another bellini.</p>
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		<title>By: kgeltemeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>kgeltemeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No way, man; this show is going out in a blaze of glory, and everybody will either be A) dead or B) catatonic for loss. I see no happy endings for anybody -- no real answers for Kara; Lee probably running the government, but alone; Adama paralyzed by losing Roslin, and all of them wondering what they hell they&#039;ve done and where they&#039;ve ended up, even if they do finally find a place to land. Ditto the Final Five: somebody&#039;s got to pay for their hubris, and I think it&#039;ll be brutal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No way, man; this show is going out in a blaze of glory, and everybody will either be A) dead or B) catatonic for loss. I see no happy endings for anybody &#8212; no real answers for Kara; Lee probably running the government, but alone; Adama paralyzed by losing Roslin, and all of them wondering what they hell they&#039;ve done and where they&#039;ve ended up, even if they do finally find a place to land. Ditto the Final Five: somebody&#039;s got to pay for their hubris, and I think it&#039;ll be brutal.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel R Zamzow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel R Zamzow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Galactica has acquiesced to the cylon upgrades.  As Galactica goes, so goes the fleet.  The fire of vengeance has been quelled...for the time being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Galactica has acquiesced to the cylon upgrades.  As Galactica goes, so goes the fleet.  The fire of vengeance has been quelled&#8230;for the time being.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel R Zamzow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel R Zamzow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still have the feeling that the final episodes are mostly denouement.
They may, however, leave us wondering if the survivors will find a planet or remain galactic roma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still have the feeling that the final episodes are mostly denouement.<br />
They may, however, leave us wondering if the survivors will find a planet or remain galactic roma.</p>
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		<title>By: kgeltemeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>kgeltemeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a downer, man! I&#039;m afraid you may be right.

And if not, you will owe me another bellini.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a downer, man! I&#039;m afraid you may be right.</p>
<p>And if not, you will owe me another bellini.</p>
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